There were no shocking revelations in Lost's "This Place is Death" episode of the type we've seen the last few weeks, such as finding out Jin was alive or that Widmore was an Other. However, we did receive a great deal of background information.
Here are my observations on Lost season 5, episode 5 "This Place is Death":
1. Charlotte - her death upset me more than I would have thought. I really grew to like her, seeing her through Daniel's eyes, and wanted to get to know her character better. She wasn't given enough time on the show, especially after hearing the revelation that she was born on the island as part of Dharma and left with her mother. Big question - WHO is her father? Bigger revelation - when Charlotte was a child, Daniel, described as a crazy man, told Charlotte to never return to the Island or she would die. Daniel seemed to have no recollection of this.
2. Charlotte was also given some great lines in this episode. When asked by Daniel if she spoke any other languages besides Korean, she said "Just Klingon" (a language in Star Trek). She also yelled out to Jin not to bring Sun back to the Island because "This place is death" the name of the episode. And when Locke, Sawyer and Juliet were wondering what they would do if the Orchid didn't exist yet, Charlotte deliriously told them "Look for the well, you'll find it at the well". How would she know this? Maybe this was how her and her mother left the island.
3. It was ironic that right after they found the Orchid and Juliet exclaimed that they were lucky to be in the same time as the station, they jumped time and it disappeared. I expected that because I knew the well would need to come into play. However, I did not expect the next jump when the ground closed up and the well disappeared.
4. We got to see Danielle's story of what happened to her group. We really got to see the smoke monster in action tonight. It killed Nadine and the man who lost his arm. After the time jump, when we saw Danielle in what appeared to be a week or so later, only Danielle and her husband were still alive. However, Danielle had said that she killed everyone because of a sickness, but she appeared to be somewhat crazy already. I think that she killed the 2 other men on the beach, and her husband, who seemed sane, tried to kill her because she was so irrational. We also found out that after their short time there, Danielle's husband was already calling the smoke monster a security system.
5. I was so glad when Jin finally found Sawyer and the others. It was obvious that Locke wasn't going to keep his promise to Jin to not bring Sun back.
6. Christian Shepard is back and did not look ghostlike as he usually does, he looked real. When Locke got stuck in the bottom of the well, with yet another leg injury, Christian appeared to help Locke continue with his plan. When Christian asked Locke why he didn't turn the wheel originally, Locke replied that Ben told him he should do it. Christian had a great line, "Since when did listening to him get you anywhere worth a damn? He then told John to "Say hello to my son", although Locke still has no idea that means Jack.
7. Christian also told Locke that dying is a sacrifice he must make. When Boone died, Locke said that he was a sacrifice that the Island demanded.
8. Ben uses the ring that Jin gave to Locke to convince Sun that Jin is still alive. Jin wanted the ring to have the opposite effect. Sun now agrees to go back but Kate and Sayid refuse to go and leave.
9. Sun to Ben in the car "You said we'd be there in 30 minutes". Ben's reply "I didn't account for traffic". Ben just has a way of making simple lines like that funny.
10. Desmond arrives at Mrs. Hawking's church at the same time as Ben, Sun and Jack are walking in. Once inside, I was expecting a remark from Desmond about recognizing Mrs. Hawking.
Any other observations from this week's episode of Lost that I missed?
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it's annoying that this flash happen again and the story doesn't really move on
i couldn't understand the thing which charlotte said to daniel after she told him the story and he meant that he doesn't understand
I don't think you missed anything. I keep wondering if Daniel is Charlotte's father or brother, but he seems "in love" with her rather than just "loving her". I think we need to find out more about Daniel's rides through time.
Some more great lines include:
when Locke, explaining that he was going to descend into the well to find a way off the island
Sawyer replied, "what do you expect to find there, a subway?"
Ben, slamming on the brakes, says to Sun and Jack ( in a voice like a mother who felt
unappreciated )
"Do you know how hard I’ve worked to keep you safe? If you want to shoot me, then just get it over with now."
Miles, after the time change that happened while Locke was descending into the well, said sarcastically to Sawyer, holding the end of the rope, "I think you can let go of that now."
Sawyer then looks to see he's holding a rope extending from the dirt covering what was formerly the well where Locke had just fallen.
On a more more puzzling note:
If time travel can’t change the future or the past, how is it that Jin can speak English when he meets Danielle as a young woman, yet when he crashes on the island during the flight from Sydney he can only speak Korean.
Thanks for the synopsis. I believe that Danielle was not the crazy one. My interpretation of the scene that you mentioned is that Danielle's husband killed the two other survivors. When he was going to shoot her, he was already out of bullets. She did not want to kill him, but only shot him after he tried to shoot her. her realization was that she would not be able to trust him with her baby if she was later killed.
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Linda, thanks for adding those great quotes. About Jin, the people that actually travel through time don't forget anything they know. They can't change what happens to other people, but they don't lose their own memories. So when the survivors all traveled into the past, they didn't forget that they knew each other.
Ben, I agree that we definitely need to learn more about Daniel. He is very important to the story.
Another great quote that I forgot about was when Miles thought he was being asked to translate for Jin - "He's Korean, I'm from Encino".
Regarding Christian...
I think Locke, when he pays them a visit will see Christian's picture...and Jack will ask what his father has to do with it...allowing Locke to put 2 and 2 together. I think Locke will convince Jack his father is still alive on the Island...and that's the leverage that he will use to get him back to the Island. If you remember in the finale of Season 3, before we knew it was a flash-forward, he's talking as if his father is still alive ("Go talk to my father").
Just an observation. :)
I've never actually watched Lost but was thinking about renting the previous season's. Seems like a great show but a bit confusing.
Fashiongrail, you will really need to watch all 4 seasons before you start season 5. Lost is the type of show that you need to see every minute of every episode to really understand and enjoy it. But it is so worth it.
I think it's possible that Charlotte's role is not over yet. In fact, in one of the recent episodes (Desmond's search for Daniel's mom), when Desmond goes to the house where Daniel's mom used to live, there's a girl there in the bed, delirious, receiving care. It was then that the female caregiver said that Daniel abandoned her.
I think that Daniel, the brains with physics and time travel, figures out how to control it more, he goes back to the past when she's still on the island, tells her not to come back, and then goes back before she dies, and brings her home for care while he searches for a cure.
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I wondered whether the girl in the bed could be Charlotte too, but slow motioned it and it is definitely a different actress.
here is a question: Danielle freaked out that Jin reappeared. To my recollection, this is the first time we sense that the people in the time to which our travelers land notice when the disappear. Or is that just the way the information is rolling out?
Good question. We never see the people left behind when the survivors time shift. So they must just disappear in their eyes.
It was clear on that episode and a previous episode on Season 4 that Charlotte was not born on the island but in Essex, England. Here on this episode, she revealed she "grew up " in the island , not born there.
Linda--I think the survivors condition during the normal time is not affected by time travel after the island was moved because if we consider your observation, John couldn't have walked in any other time he is in. Look at the 1954 episode with Locke and Alpert, Locke should not have been born on that time yet. If that is the case, we may suppose that Locke is never there at all because he is not supposed to be born on that time yet.
I think it is also worth pointing out that the way in which Locke speaks to Christian suggests that Christian is Jacob, or have I forgotten a previous encounter between the two. Also in response to whether Charlotte is the girl Desmond sees in bed, I am sure that that is the girl who takes Daniel to the bomb in 1954, and is the same actress; perhaps she is Charlotte's mother, and is only in the future due to some time paradox yet to be explained.
Locke met up with Christian last year in Jacob's cabin and Christian told him he was speaking for Jacob. I still don't think that Christian is Jacob, but I'm not entirely sure.
The girl who took Daniel to the bomb, her name was Ellie, and is most likely Eloise Hawkings, Daniel's mother and the woman that Ben, Jack, etc. are meeting with now.
I know we've seen Eloise before, but i cannot remember which episode and the context. I'm assuming some of the characters that go to the church to see her have met her previously. Whats the connection? Its driving me nuts :)
Why no Hurley this episode? I really liked seeing him in his orange jumpsuit.
Desmond met Eloise Hawkings in the season 3 episode after the hatch blew up and he first jumped through time. She was the woman in the jewelry store when he wanted to buy the ring. She was the one that taught him that know matter what he did he wouldn't be able to save Charlie.
i read this before watching so i knew charlotte was going to buy it, i haven't been to keen on her throughout but thought her acting was superb in this episode, also with the black smoke monster, i have the feeling that it may have taken over rousseaus hubby/all the men that went into the crack and thats why he had the knowledge of it being a security system, if that is the case what are the chances something like that happened to locke in season one when he faced it in the jungle, would make sense as to why he's so adamant about protecting the island...maybe...
Can't check the episode but could the woman in the bed be the same person whose death Faraday was being held responsible for when he went to the physics lab at Harvard in the future?
Also, could it be that Daniel and Danielle are siblings? The name similarity is interesting.
The woman in the bed in Jughead definitely is the woman that Harvard hold's Daniel responsible for. Widmore is paying for her care.
I don't think that Daniel and Danielle are related, but on Lost, stranger things have happened.